Como matar a los magos Frost

[Here]

no bolo, refleja bien el spell en trayectoria.

el grounding capas tiene esa mecanica.

[Haunted]

Raro, capaz que anda asi en wowarg jaja, Spell Reflect reflecting more than one spell in some situations - Warrior - Wowhead Forums
i don't think latency is the right way to describe it. i think the decision to be reflected or not is made when the spell leaves the caster, so travel time is the difference.

the behavior i've noticed is this:
1) "early" spell is cast
2) warrior pops spell reflect
3) "early" spell lands, is not reflected, and does not use the SR charge
4) "first" spell is cast
5) while "first" spell is in flight, x number of additional spells are cast
6) "first" spell lands
7) y number of additional spells are cast
8) x spells are all reflected
9) y spells all land

so it seems to me that the decision on whether or not a spell is going to be reflected happens at the moment it leaves the casters fingertips. that is why if you pop spell reflect after a cast is in the air, it WILL NOT be reflected. that is also why ALL spells that are cast while the first spell is still in flight WILL be reflected. when they were cast, SR was still active and so they made the decision to be reflected at that moment, regardless of whether SR was still up when they hit the warrior.

so in your situation, say you cast an incinerate from a distance so it had plenty of flight time. while it traveled, you got a 2nd hasted incinerate off and a mage got a spell off as well. all three of those spells would get reflected because SR was up when they left your fingers. to avoid this, you have to wait until the first spell is reflected before you send your next one off.

i use this to my advantage in PVE all the time. charge into a group of casters and pop SR. because they all cast at about the same time, you will reflect them all. i haven't yet seen a limit on how many spells this can apply to.

Por ahi lo cambiaron en algun patch note, pero siempre di a entender que el reflect no reflejaba si se usaba cuando el spell ya estaba en el aire.

[Poi]

usa commanding shout

empeza bien agresivo vos gastando charge , intercept , blade , trinket, etc evitando q el magito te acomode con un poly ( q se van lejos, pelan icy veisn y elemental y te castigan feo ) ....si le rompiste mucho las bolas y el mago insistio con el poly , tiene q tirar evocation en ves de pegarte

despues lo demas es basicamente cuestion de reaccionar a cada situacion , mantene rend , harmstring , o simplemente castiga si ves la oportunidad...

el spell reflect guardalo para los nova o cuando estas metiendo presion vos , q generalmente les haces morfar un frostfirebolt o fireblast instant...

cuando quedaste en pelotas sin charge ni intercept tiras wall , cuando te hacen nova ahi nomas tiras battlemaster + enraged regen ( con commanding shout ) y te curas banda sumando el second wind..

de todos modos depende mucho de como juege el mago , y el gear de ambos , sobre todo el tuyo xq si no tenes buena resi y hp te revientan en un par de novas , si estas armado los ves como buenos a ciertos novas x el second wind XD

[Here]

Raro, capaz que anda asi en wowarg jaja, Spell Reflect reflecting more than one spell in some situations - Warrior - Wowhead Forums
i don't think latency is the right way to describe it. i think the decision to be reflected or not is made when the spell leaves the caster, so travel time is the difference.

the behavior i've noticed is this:
1) "early" spell is cast
2) warrior pops spell reflect
3) "early" spell lands, is not reflected, and does not use the SR charge
4) "first" spell is cast
5) while "first" spell is in flight, x number of additional spells are cast
6) "first" spell lands
7) y number of additional spells are cast
8) x spells are all reflected
9) y spells all land

so it seems to me that the decision on whether or not a spell is going to be reflected happens at the moment it leaves the casters fingertips. that is why if you pop spell reflect after a cast is in the air, it WILL NOT be reflected. that is also why ALL spells that are cast while the first spell is still in flight WILL be reflected. when they were cast, SR was still active and so they made the decision to be reflected at that moment, regardless of whether SR was still up when they hit the warrior.

so in your situation, say you cast an incinerate from a distance so it had plenty of flight time. while it traveled, you got a 2nd hasted incinerate off and a mage got a spell off as well. all three of those spells would get reflected because SR was up when they left your fingers. to avoid this, you have to wait until the first spell is reflected before you send your next one off.

i use this to my advantage in PVE all the time. charge into a group of casters and pop SR. because they all cast at about the same time, you will reflect them all. i haven't yet seen a limit on how many spells this can apply to.

Por ahi lo cambiaron en algun patch note, pero siempre di a entender que el reflect no reflejaba si se usaba cuando el spell ya estaba en el aire.

mepa que se cambio eh... con el grounding habia visto eso, CREO que con el reflect tambien, almenos hasta hace un tiempo vi que el warrior podia reflejar todos los spells que venian en camino a destruirte el cerebro con tirar spell reflect antes de que toque al mismo, di a suponer que seguia igual.

empeza bien agresivo vos gastando charge , intercept , blade , trinket, etc evitando q el magito te acomode con un poly ( q se van lejos, pelan icy veisn y elemental y te castigan feo ) ....si lo hiciste bien el mago en vez de pelar cds agresivos tiene q tirar evo

sabes el poly que te morfas despues del cubo, ser agresivo al toque y gastar todo absolutamente te mandas al muere.

[Necrosis]

El Spell Reflect funciona unicamente si lo activaste durante el cast time del spell, no refleja el daño si lo usaste cuando el rayito o la bola de fuego esta en el aire, tiene una mecanica muy parecida al Grounding Totem. Por ahi me equivoco ehh.

puede ser che nose deberia probar, tal ves lo activan al 90% de la barra de casteo y da la impresion de que lo activan al vuelo (para el caster).

[Alskan]

Si lo activas con el misil en vuelo te entra igual, al menos así era con el grounding.

[gerointoxicado]

Es muy importante mantener rend durante toda la pelea, cada vez que estes en nova metes reflect y con suerte se comen su propio stun.

[seba08]

Se nota que le das bien con la frente al teclado.

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Si leen el tooltip del spell reflect muchos se darian cuanta que en ningun lado dice que necesita de defensive stance = que el shield slam.

posta, yo tengo un macro para battle stance con escudo y arma de una mano, para tirar reflects, cortar casteo con shield bash y romper burbujas con shield slam, la cagada de todo esto es que un shield slam sale mas caro que ir a la carniceria de la esquina a comprar un asadito

[Poi]

no me referia a quemar todo de 1 aleatoriamente , obiamente 1 cd x nova / blink ...le haces quemar iceblock y evocation es fija

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no es lo mismo q te hagn poly al principio y te ensarten en un par de novas a q tenga q jugar defensivo el mage , gaste iceblock trinket y evo y recien ahi te mete poly , es muy probable q ya la tengas ganada ahi , ademas te tiene q quedar enraged regen , shield wall , battlemaster , y aguantando un toke mas ya tenes blade de nuevo y cae seguro

[Rookie]

La onda de matar un mago frost , siempre tratà de quemarle los cd , fijate de no quedarle a mitad de camino con el charge , es la ventaja