Wowers CSGoers: League of DotA 2 - Toda la cumbia villera del gaming en un thread

[Poo]

Al parecer Riot decidio nerfear a todos los junglas populares en la LCS, despues del anunciado "rework" de Lee Sin llegaron los nerfs a Vi , Elise y ahora le toca el turno a Pantheon.
Archivo Adjunto 56469 Bastate ridiculo el rango de la ultimate ahora
Wukong next?

Pf, se van a la goma... para mi estaba medio op ese bicho, pero bajarle el rango asi a la ulti me parece demasiado... no sirve de una mierda asi.

[Morphio]

es el rapel de elise, con CD de 3 min

[Z_z]

con lo que tarda en saltar es demasiado ese range..

[Poo]

Claro, tiene demasiado delay... con tan poco rango es practicamente una ulti de fiddle, solo que avisa donde vas a caer, y no te garantiza un penta si la clavas bien. Una reverenda poronga en definitiva.

[Nevrosis]

Al parecer Riot decidio nerfear a todos los junglas populares en la LCS, despues del anunciado "rework" de Lee Sin llegaron los nerfs a Vi , Elise y ahora le toca el turno a Pantheon.
Archivo Adjunto 56469 Bastate ridiculo el rango de la ultimate ahora
Wukong next?

Paranoia de Nocturne no tiene el mismo rango también? Horrible, pero bueno, al menos el channeling es más corto. Le dieron un poco más de "utilidad" en late game a la W. Igual su late sigue siendo choto. Meh.

[Poo]

La destruccion de este juego era inevitable desde que entro ghost crawler, alguien peguele un tiro a ese tipo por favor...

[Z_z]

igual esta bien que le hagan poronga el ulti, jugar botlane contra un panth es lo peor del mundo, cada vez que pusheas si tu jungler no esta cerca te hacne el orto.

[Z_z]

I think riot is going a little too hard again with nerfing champions because item changes made them too good. I just saw some of the proposed pantheon changes, W stunning for only .5 sec at rank 1 and grand skyfall not even going the distance of 1 screen at level 6. Of course hes being nerfed because of his popularity and prowess in the jungle but the truth is that his kit was not enough to make him a great jungler, it was the changes to the spirit items and jungle that ultimately put him at the top of the food chain. Much like the corki nerfs to compensate for his rise in popularity and power due to the buffing of triforce towards s2 worlds, riot is overnerfing a champion because it became too good with some changes to items. I kind of wish they just toned down the jungle items a bit since you cant argue that they are pretty OP. Great stats, insane jungle clear, and the most recent changes added free sustain to each one. Let's also not forget that they give extra gold income as long as you're farming jungle camps normally which most junglers will do inbetween ganking. You get all of this for a 1700 gold upgrade from your starting jungle item. What this means is that almost any champion that builds down this item path can clear the jungle semi effectively. Junglers like pantheon that have insanely good kits for ganking also had a major drawback of not being able to clear as effectively as other champions. The increased damage and sustain from spirit stone items allow champions like pantheon to sustain, farm fast, and gank effectively because his kit is designed to do just that. The problem with going after pantheon's kit directly is that they are not only nerfing his ability in the jungle but his ability to do anything. His laning will be weaker as well as his ordinary roams, outside of jungle ganks. A few of the popular junglers now actually used to be laners with good ganking or late game kits. Examples of this are kha'zix, pantheon, and wukong. These champions have hardly been popular junglers since before the spirit and jungle changes. Now they are too strong but Riot is going after the wrong targets to bring them back in line IMO. I really hope they reconsider going after champion kits and take another look at the jungle items that are allowing champions like that to run rampant with almost no drawbacks.

tiene sentido

[Poo]

igual esta bien que le hagan poronga el ulti, jugar botlane contra un panth es lo peor del mundo, cada vez que pusheas si tu jungler no esta cerca te hacne el orto.

Si, de eso no me habia dado cuenta antes porque soy un manco que juega con mancos, pero viendo el game de voloc el otro dia, en una el pantheon les tiro el skyfall atras estando pusheados... adelante la torre y 2 tipos, atras el pantheon por impactarte en el craneo, stunearte y meterte 5 mil de daño, o sea, doble kill del team enemigo salvo que tengas flash, e incluso asi es dificil, el adc del voloc team tiro e igual se cago muriendo.

Pero bueno, con esto basicamente lo destrozan... para eso que le pongan otra ulti. O sea yo pensaba si vos sos top lane, de que mierda te sirve esa ulti ahora ? de nada directamente.

Bleh o la podes usar como un enchant blanco para llegar a la primer torre si moris.

[mat]

Para mí se fueron al carajo con el rango de la ulti..
Elise pasó del 49% win rate a 44~43%.